No Shining Answers

answer clouds 300x201 No Shining AnswersThere is no finale to all this, just as substance abuse has no end in sight. Yet for the modern family, society has created more and more solutions to the drug addiction problems. For those who suffer codependency from drug abusers, many 12 step programs have “Open Meetings,” where those close to addicts can share; there are also Al-Anon meetings for those with alcohol abusing loved ones. Society does recognize the problem, and for families the real shining answer is often drug addicts are able to quit. They just need help to do it.

Yes, drug abuse does effect everyone. However, many books in the past decade have pointed out both positive and negative effects of drug abuse on children of drug abusers, and even spouses. How does that work? Actually, negative consequences are far more common, but in the hearts and minds of children is the capacity to see good in the bad, to survive. After all, no one has had the perfect life! Drug abuse and addiction … does … affect everyone within society, within the family, and within major systems which fight the war on drugs. It comes not from a doctor or counselor, but from someone who experienced drug addiction for many years. There is a road to recovery and a lot of lives have been spared through the help of 12 step programs, family, friends and doctors.

59 Responses for “No Shining Answers”

  1. How about suggesting the use of secular addiction groups in place of the religiously affiliated 12-step groups that force religion on its participants. Blaming higher power for your addiction is nonsense, it’s your fault. I should clarify that the generalized “you” to which I refer is the person prone to psychological or physical dependence as a result of their physical makeup.

    Also, an important thing you remember: The use of drugs does not automatically make it drug abuse–which seems to contradict the common theme of every site like this which claims that use of any and all drugs is bad and must be stopped for society’s protection.

    What you all pontificate is effectively that people are too weak to make up their own mind as to what they should put into -their own- bodies, and that you should get to dictate what they can and cannot do with their lives based on some delusional sense of grandeur.

    Your entire campaign is essentially a war against the United States first amendment to the freedom of speech ,which inherently gives rise to the freedom of thought, and which is explicitly included in the United Nations Universal Declaration on Human Rights’ Article 18.

    Considering that pot has caused no direct deaths from it’s use, your time is probably better served going after something that actually kills people–like tobacco, or alcohol.

    “•Tobacco causes 1 in 10 adult deaths worldwide.
    • Tobacco causes nearly 5 million deaths a year, or one death every 6.5 seconds.
    • The current death toll will nearly double by 2020 if current trends continue.
    • Total global smoking prevalence is 29%. By gender, 47.5% of men and 10.3% of women smoke.
    • Tobacco kills 50% of its regular users. Of the 1.3 billion smokers alive today, 650 million will eventually be killed by tobacco. Of them, 325 million between the ages of 35 and 69.”

    -From the World Health Organization
    http://www.who.int/tobacco/fctc/tobacco%20factsheet%20for%20COP4.pdf

  2. ADMIN says:

    How many addicts do you think only smoke pot? You are the one that needs to do some research. You obviously have not been around very many people with drug problems. All of my pot buddies did a little of this and little bit of that too. And then all of their pot buddies did a little of this and little of that too.

    Also, how smart were you from 16 – 20 years old? Do you think it was a good idea that your parents provided some rules for you? Oh sure go ahead and make everything legal. We can just say that you have to wait until 21 to smoke pot or use drugs. Yeah, tell that to my fake ID and my older buddies.

    Oh and before you throw in that we shouldn’t be concerned with a small portion of the population (the addicts). Who do you really think buys most of the liquor and beer in the world? Your wine tasting buddies? Sure…..

    Give me a break. Find someone who has been there, because you have not my friend.

  3. -”How many addicts do you think only smoke pot?”

    Gateway drug theory there. Try to use legitimate information, and not the made up kind. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-12/uopm-ng120406.php

    - “All of my pot buddies did a little of this and little bit of that too. And then all of their pot buddies did a little of this and little of that too.”

    And your non-pot buddies did a little of this and a little bit of that.

    - “We can just say that you have to wait until 21 to smoke pot or use drugs. Yeah, tell that to my fake ID and my older buddies.”

    The ID requirement is better than no ID requirement.

    - “Who do you really think buys most of the liquor and beer in the world? Your wine tasting buddies? Sure…..”

    Your honestly going with the argument that the addicts in the country buy so much alcohol that they out purchase all other consumer sales of alcohol. That’s just ridiculous.

    - “Oh sure go ahead and make everything legal.”

    Congratulations on making something up that I never said.

    - “Give me a break. Find someone who has been there, because you have not my friend.”

    Yeah. I could go out and find a homeless quadruple-amputee with HIV and say “Hey, all people who are homeless are amputees with terminal illnesses.”
    You can overgeneralize and pretend that the entire population has it terrible based on a few acute horrible cases and make that your basis for everything.

    Sure some people have it really bad–everyone however does not have it bad.

    Also, please don’t call me your friend. I do not befriend people who totally disregard empirical evidence in exchange for their nonsensical “beliefs”–that what they think is infallibly correct.

    Have a nice day

  4. ADMIN says:

    “Your honestly going with the argument that the addicts in the country buy so much alcohol that they out purchase all other consumer sales of alcohol. That’s just ridiculous.”

    Yes, I would argue that. Prove me wrong.. You can’t.

    Saying “Oh sure go ahead and make everything legal” was my statement, not yours.

    Here is the best part of your first statement “Blaming higher power for your addiction is nonsense”. Addicts and alcoholics don’t blame a higher power for their addiction. A higher power is what helps us to get into recovery.

    You are a waste of my time and intelligence on the subject of addiction. Go to an AA meeting or talk to an addictionologist so that you will have a good argument the next time you try to act so smart listing references. But, you’re probably even smarter than our previous president George Bush (who was an alcoholic who worked the 12 step program), so I assume you will not need to do that.

  5. - “Yes, I would argue that. Prove me wrong.. You can’t.”

    Yeah… Scientifically speaking, proof of a theory works the other way, broski. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You made the claim, you supply the evidence. Prove that.

    - “Saying “Oh sure go ahead and make everything legal” was my statement, not yours. ”

    By the way… They did it in Portugal–and drug use and violent crime is down across the board.

    - “Here is the best part of your first statement “Blaming higher power for your addiction is nonsense”. Addicts and alcoholics don’t blame a higher power for their addiction. A higher power is what helps us to get into recovery.”

    Actually, it does inherently imply that. “1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol.” If you are indeed powerless over it, the only thing that could have caused it to be so is your God.

    - “You are a waste of my time and intelligence on the subject of addiction. Go to an AA meeting or talk to an addictionologist so that you will have a good argument the next time you try to act so smart listing references. But, you’re probably even smarter than our previous president George Bush (who was an alcoholic who worked the 12 step program), so I assume you will not need to do that.”

    I love it when religious folk resort to hostility when their belief is refuted with truth.

  6. ADMIN says:

    You really are the guy that will not admit that you made an incorrect statement.

    These are the 12 steps of AA. Where is the proof in “Imply”? You need to provide that for me now.

    1.We admitted we were powerless over alcohol, that our lives had become unmanageable.

    2.Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

    3.Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

    4.Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

    5.Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

    6.Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

    7.Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

    8.Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

    9.Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

    10.Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

    11.Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

    12.Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

    I hope you do not have any addicted friends or family. Because you sure did “Imply” a lot. I guess you go around implying everything throughout your day. Also, don’t think for a minute that I will roll over and play dead. The God of my understanding feels that I should point out when people are wrong. The God of my understanding is the God of my understanding and not yours. Do a little studying my clueless friend. Yes, you are my new friend. Old pal, old buddy.

  7. cookiemeat says:

    Good argument, If I was scoring this I would score themanwiththehat as the victor, I do agree that 12 step programs can help, some people need the support they provide to end substance abuse. I do see that MJ being on the other side of the law causes more harm then good being more accessible to the youth like that as opposed to being in stores regulated. If it was in stores and not sold by the same people that sell crack and heroin maybe the crack/heroin rates would go down? It may also alleviate some of the Mexican drug cartel violence by taking away funds from them and giving it to farmers that could grow non active hemp and MJ for smoking/eating. I would just like this country to step back and have a good open debate. I do not smoke MJ but have a few times and see no reason for it to be illegal. The war on drugs has failed and costs to much money to wage and as a tax payer I am sick of the 600 dollars a second pissed away on something that could pay for better schools. say no to pot is a good idea but no to the drug war and tax the pot that people will smoke.

  8. Sancho says:

    You still believe in God? Grow up!

  9. Glenners says:

    Themanwiththehat is right. You sound like a religious nut admin. Listen to logic and reason. Being wrong isn’t that bad, who cares we all make mistakes. Continuing believing in retarded ideas when the facts are right there with proof and evidence is just being stupid.

    Why are all religious nut jobs so stubborn? and why do they insist you prove them wrong when they’re the ones being idiots and saying dumb things?

  10. AJ4U says:

    Wow Really admin? You temp banned the guy because he argued your statements? How old are you twelve?

    Oh yea i guess you didnt get the memo, but there IS NO GOD.

    “Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.”

    I bet your still waiting for that one

  11. joe samoney says:

    looks like a power enraged guy who thinks hes better then those struglling with a the same illness he has once had and or feels better now so can treat other people with disrespect becpuse they arent at his status level

  12. Think says:

    “You obviously have not been around very many people with drug problems.
    You are a waste of my time and intelligence on the subject of addiction.
    Do a little studying my clueless friend.”
    -ADMIN

    You come across as judgmental and preachy. If you took a more respectful tone then you might have some good points.

  13. IhaveNoHat says:

    Whats your though of taking the people out of prison that grew and took MJ Admin?
    hmm?

    Do they deserve that “greater power in their lives?”

    What about the people that just GREW it and are suffering life in prison over a plant.

    Get real admin, Id print this blog out a million times and burn it for its worthlessness.

    Innocent people get to rot too, and here you are spewing propaganda and stuff about religion.

    You suck, -5.

  14. The admin does not very good arguments

  15. kyle says:

    the very existence of this website is straight nonsense

  16. Caly says:

    So whatever happened to personal responsibility? Why not fix yourself, instead of letting some all powerful dickhead fix you?

    And really, where is the “incorrect statement” that the Man in the Hat has made? At least supply that…

  17. ADMIN says:

    I did not not ban anyone. The website went down because of too much traffic earlier tonight. Tell the “TheManWithTheHat” I’ll be happy to keep arguing with him. By the way, I’ve written more of my drug treatment story and will be posting it sometime tomorrow.

    Have a nice night.

  18. jahonna says:

    ummm…you definitely banned him.

    and why is it your business what other people do???
    if you smoke cool, if you don’t-why be against it?

  19. upinthetree says:

    this is so funny. admin..it’s not ‘arguing’ when you’ve already lost.. go manwiththehat!

    and seriously, this site it a complete joke in the first place.

  20. It’s quite comical to see ADMIN being told after being quite so stubborn. This website doesn’t seem to be getting very good responses and I can see why.
    ADMIN, you seem to be a religious man (or woman), could you just please answer this?
    As silly as the question may seem to you, please respect it.
    Why do you think “GOD” made marijuana? Was it to trick people into going to hell? Was it to cheat men out of religion? If yes, to either question, then I would ask this; Why would you ever consider belief in such a victimizing god?

  21. Ness says:

    ITT: admin recycles old and long since refuted arguments against weed and resorts to religious fervor once summarily defeated. lol.

  22. Nuala says:

    Face it admin, you’ve well and truly lost all the arguments on your OWN site. If you have any dignity left you’d shut it down and get on with your sad little life. You need to get over yourself and all this pathetic bull you’ve created!

  23. Meaux says:

    Yeah, I’m gonna say themanwiththehat won this one.
    Just because this site is made to be against pot, doesn’t mean a pro pot person shouldn’t be allowed to have a civil argument.
    I respect people who believe in god, though I am an athiest. I think all religions are just as reasonable as the next, so people, don’t try to make anything better by insulting the admin for his/ her (?) religion.
    But really, Admin, we all see your insecurity in what you wright.

  24. Given all the evidence that pot is the least of society’s problems today, I’d say this site is the product of a small mind. There are no compelling arguments here, only a sheaf of pointless articles obviously (and poorly) written by the same hack godbag with a messiah complex.

    Nice try, but you know? No. The human predicament would be better served if the Admin took up the ladle in a soup kitchen. Food, not fabrications!

  25. Hi, i just wanted to point out that 60% of all bible readers molest little children. thanks

    RNJ

  26. Mr. Blue says:

    Heh, I don’t smoke pot, or do any drugs in fact, I am of a meditative man.
    But I am at least open minded enough to read and acknowledge stuff, not just the stuff I want to read and realize what’s beneficial and what isn’t and what’s just obviously a pathetic myth.
    How many people have died from smoking pot? How many people go out and murder someone or start fights on pot? This website is worthless all together, why don’t you start a site called saynotocaffeine or saynotoaspirin or say no to the dozens of other things probably in your kitchen cabinets that are more harmful the marijuana? Get a life.. Seriously.

  27. Mario says:

    Every human has an addiction to something, its only societys punishments and exiles that are harming people. If instead we teached responsible use, rather than treating people like animals and casting them into the underground, the world would be a much better place.

  28. JT says:

    Well said Chairman Meow.

  29. I’m not banned–I just felt that there was really nothing left to be said.
    No sense in kicking a corpse.

    And I will be glad to continue discussing this should the admin provide any real evidence or facts that can be cited, pal ol’ buddy ol’ friend.

  30. Jonathan says:

    “Your honestly going with the argument that the addicts in the country buy so much alcohol that they out purchase all other consumer sales of alcohol. That’s just ridiculous.”

    Yes, I would argue that. Prove me wrong.. You can’t.

    ________________________________________________________________
    You seriously just used that as your argument? wow…that is just breathtaking. I have not seen that one since learning real debate in the 6th grade. The one who makes the claim is the one who supplies the evidence.

    peace

  31. Dude96 says:

    I’m curious admin…are you a creationist?

  32. niteowl says:

    ADMIN, wow just wow.

    How can you actually believe the propaganda spewed out by the government.
    Just look to any or the European countries that have decriminalized weed.

    NOTHING BAD HAS HAPPENED.

    Portugal decriminalized ALL drugs and has seen nothing but imprivments in its society.

    The war on drugs is a utter failure and needs to end.

    Using drugs is not a crime, it is a health issue.
    Putting people in jail for being sick…………..

    DOES NOT WORK.

    /rant

  33. IeatSHROOMS says:

    read up on

    http://www.illuminati-news.com/marijuana-conspiracy.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States
    only real reason its illegal is DuPont, William Randolph Hearst, and hemp
    think about it nub
    1 all the legal drugs in the world alchy tobacco,meds are not easily made but the gov gets money from it.
    2.the gov is an group they make no money of there own all there money they get from taxes and such
    all drugs that are illegal pot and shrooms amongst others are easily home grown the only way they get money from that is fines and tax payers pay for there jail time
    some are not facts just IMO

  34. NEO says:

    I noticed the Admin went shy.

    Probably mad cause he got owned on his own site. I would be too. Then again if I had a site like this I would expect it.

  35. Combobbin says:

    i dont even understand this site. theres no proof of anything they say to back it up as true nor do they know what there talking about. what evidence on marijuana do you guys have that make it soooo bad. tell me one thing because all i see is good things outta this drug. you guys are just more cattle raised by the government. brainwashed into believing everything they tell you. i feel sorry for pointless people on sites like these..

  36. Jamie T. says:

    I do agree that some people can’t handle cannabis and i wish there was a way to prevent them from getting it but trust me and you should know this, cannabis is a call away. So keeping it illegal is preventing so many addicts from enabling themselves in their own problems. I like how addicts have to blame “things” I personally believe that the problem lies within the individual. Take some personally responsibility. You had a problem, you knew you had a problem and you indulged yourself with things that made the problem worse. Stop crying about, I’m still amazed you made a whole site for this man. You take your whole story involving many things, family, friends, drugs and yourself and you come to the conclusion that cannabis caused it all your messed up. I think you have a crazy religious family, you have bad friends, and you made poor decisions. All of them seem to be YOUR fault, expect your family which was just luck i guess. Please take the time your wasting on this site and reevaluate your life and what went wrong.

  37. Matt says:

    “Here is the best part of your first statement “Blaming higher power for your addiction is nonsense”. Addicts and alcoholics don’t blame a higher power for their addiction. A higher power is what helps us to get into recovery.”

    Admin, you are doing just what he is talking about. While it may not come down to “blaming a higher power”, you are refusing to accept the fact that this addiction problem was YOUR problem, not marijuana’s. Instead of accepting this, you have created a bogus site filled with illegitimate facts and no citations with the sole purpose of blaming all of your problems on marijuana when it was really your own weak minded approach and “sore loser” defeat that led to your problems. Please take this site down as quickly as you can, as you are making a fool of yourself and others who share your views.

  38. former narc says:

    I agree with this site in part. Weed is bad, but only because it’s illegal. I quit my job as a narcotics officer when me and 5 other policeman raided a home which we expected to contain marijuna plants. We forced through the door like a bunch of gorillas and shot and killed a mother of three kids. There were no plants. After that incident i became a nervous wreck, couldn’t sleep couldn’t eat, and i was severely depressed. One day something amazing happened. I discovered weed with the help of my doctor. I could sleep, i had no problem eating, and while I was using it, it seemed as if my depression melted away. Idiots like you, people who become addicted to it should not be blaming the drug. It is a helpful herb to mankind. No side effects besides a little short term memory loss (I have never lost my memory however) and that is a lot more than I can say for the stuff my doctor had me taking. All in all, weed is a great drug. Don’t blame the fact that you have a void in your life that you’re trying to fill up with drug abuse on marijuana. You make yourself look stupid.

  39. Ganja is a wonderful drug.
    Just as benign as a cup of coffee.
    It helps take away pains for many, and in general improves quality of life.
    The only problem with the sweet leaf is the legality issue, as it is detrimental to anyone whom is unfortunate to be caught in possession.

    I’m a full time employed, tax paying, full time student, dean’s listed every semester, and smoke daily. My life is fantastic!

    BTW, I didn’t partake enjoyment until I was over 18, besides, the easiest place to get weed is @ a high school, last time I checked, dealers don’t check IDs, only green dollar bills.

  40. Brian says:

    Hey Admin, if you think AA is such a great organization, yet you are against all drug use….guess what?

    The co-founder of AA dropped LSD a few times and attributed his psychedelic trips to his ability to give up alcohol and become sober. Do you agree with that? Or since the government told you that “all illegal drugs are bad and evil”, you think LSD has no medical value, either? Currently there are studies being conducted with LSD to explore its great psychotherapy uses…namely the ability of the drug to bring up repressed memories or emotions that otherwise could not be accessed by the patient themselves, and to speed up the whole psychotherapy process. Preliminary studies have shown that just one LSD session of psychotherapy can be as effective as months of regular counseling.

    Fact of the matter is, drug use =/= abuse. Drugs can be used responsibly, but they can also be abused. Someone can use alcohol responsibly by moderating their consumption, yet they can still get pretty buzzed and enjoy a good time with friends at a social event, and not drive whilst intoxicated, and then there’s no problem with that, right?

    However, alcohol can also be abused, as I’m sure you can agree. It depends on the person though, not the drug. If abuse depended solely on the drug, then anyone who has ever tried alcohol would be drinking a 24-pack of beer a day. However, this is not the case at all.

    Same goes with marijuana. If it was solely the fault of the drug for causing abuse, then every marijuana user would be smoking pounds of weed every day, all day, from the moment they wake up, to smoking all day at work, etc. Yet, most marijuana users are not like this. They may have a joint right before bedtime, or at least after they get off work, to relax after a long day at the workplace.

    If you disagree with me, I’ll be pretty angry, because I have very healthy relatives that drink a few glasses of wine a day, hold good jobs, don’t have any noticeable problems, never drive whilst intoxicated, etc. And I know plenty of responsible adults that get all their priorities and responsibilities out of the way before they light up a marijuana cigarette, and they also hold well-paying jobs and take care of their families.

    And since I’m only in college, I know quite a few fellow classmates that use marijuana. However, whenever we talk about our use, we are responsible about it, too. Otherwise how could we be successful students? Everyone I’ve run into that is in college and smokes weed, does it on the weekends after they’ve completed their homework and studying, to relax or have some fun with friends.

    Then of course there’s cancer patients and those with AIDS that need to use marijuana much more often, but why blame them? The drug is beneficial to them because it helps them maintain a healthy appetite and quality of life. They are better able to fight wasting syndrome and weight loss because they are using the strongest anti-emetic (anti-nausea) medication in existence. They inhale it because it’s the fastest and easiest method of ingestion when it comes to their appetite problems. If they had to swallow a pill, they would need to wait at least thirty minutes for it to take effect, and they would also have to avoid vomiting up the pill. Most cancer and AIDS patients have to take a lot of retroviral or chemotherapy drugs, in the form of pills. Lots of pills. Ten different pills a day, called “drug cocktails”. These pill combinations can be incredibly hard to stomach, and when you already don’t have a healthy appetite because of an illness such as cancer or AIDS, what’s wrong with effectively stimulating hunger by means of inhaling marijuana, rather than have to take another pill? What’s wrong with that?

    I don’t see what the difference is with marijuana or other drugs. People can still use these drugs responsibly. There are many marijuana users I know who just like to relax when they get home after a long day at work and tucking their kids in at night, and will light up a joint after finishing all their responsibilities. They don’t smoke before/during driving, or operating heavy machinery, and they are fully supporting their family with their job. Just because you couldn’t use marijuana responsibly, doesn’t mean that it should be demonized and be denied to everyone else.

    Here’s another example. There are some people with chronic pain, who need to use narcotic pain relievers (opiates), to relieve their pain because nothing else works and they live in misery without relief. They are prescribed these drugs by doctors to treat the pain and they will take the medication as prescribed, every 4-6 hours or whatever the dosage may be, so they don’t have to live with such terrible pain. These drugs can treat any sort of pain effectively, not just for back injuries or motorcycle/car accidents, but also for complicated nerve diseases such as MS, arthritis, and afflictions of the feet in which the feet feel like they’re on fire, etc. Marijuana is also an effective medication for these types of ailments, as well as many other illnesses.

    But then there are hardcore heroin or oxycodone junkies that shoot up four times a day or pop way too many pills, don’t have jobs, and rob people and stores so they can get more money to buy more painkillers. However, just because there are people out there that will abuse these drugs, does that mean that these drugs should be denied to people that really need them? Come on! Your logic is inherently flawed and to be honest, kind of sadistic. You seem to have no problem with other people suffering and not able to obtain proper and effective medication just because you had a problem with that medication and couldn’t control yourself or your life while on it. Please do not demonize a drug for something that is, in reality, your fault, not the drug.

  41. ADMIN says:

    Brian,

    I actually didn’t believe what you said about Bill Wilson until I located the article on the internet. I don’t know if LSD is addictive or not. I didn’t like using it because it took me to a “strange place”.

    Marijuana, Cocaine, and some of the other hard drugs have medical benefits and should be used when appropriate. I even feel that it is sad that terminally ill cancer patients do not have the ability to use Heroin as a pain killer. I have no problem when it comes to the medical use of any hard substances.

    And if you are someone who is using Marijuana for a “real” medical condition that it has been “proven by majority” to benefit, then I am happy that the doctors have made it available to you.

    Most people are using Marijuana to party with and not to help medical problems. I should also add that some people are self-medicating, (like I was) and need to see a “real” doctor. The world of medicine is not a big conspiracy; they really do have better (no-addictive) drugs to treat depression and other mental disorders.

  42. Bizzle says:

    You neglect that some people use marijuana for personal/spiritual exploration, for enhanced appreciation of music and the arts, and for the simple sheer enjoyment of it, much like one would enjoy going to the beach, walking through the woods, kissing a lover, spending time with a child, etc. In fact it can enhance appreciation of those things as well. It is not NEEDED, but what is the harm, when it is not harming anything (as it usually isn’t), of enjoying something very natural and sacred.

  43. OF course the world of medicine isn’t a big conspiracy… Duh!

    Thats why most doctors are coming out about marijuana not being as bad as its made out to be…

  44. Overdrive says:

    Admin you are just a scared little guy still hiding under your blankies.
    You say you don’t like acid because it took you to a “strange place” ? Welcome to not being ignorant and having a higher level of consciousness, taking LSD is like looking into a mirror into your mind. based simply on that little statement you said I can tell you are the kind of person that is afraid of truth and is likely to become an alcoholic later in life if you arn’t already.

  45. Overdrive says:

    Just because there are other options of treatment doesn’t mean you have the right to criticize these forms of treatment just because they have been deemed illegal and people use them to party. Big deal if people want to have a couple hits to relax on the weekend, are they hurting anyone? They are not even hurting themselves.. You have no authority anyway to say what a better form of treatment for this and that would be because you know very little on the subject of psychology and medicine, many doctors that actually do have knowledge on the subjects would gladly approve LSD in certain therapies and marijuana for treatment of depression and such. Look at all the over the counter drugs that are 500x more damaging then LSD and marijuana put together. Like SSRI’s. you probably have no clue how fucked up and illicit most of these drugs are.

  46. Overdrive says:

    The war on drugs is worthless because people will get their hands on them anyway, they don’t give a **** and the profit goes into the black market for more drugs. Legalize it for medical use or a certain age, regulate and tax it and stop throwing people who ETHICALLY are NOT criminals in jail. Drugs that realistically endanger the lives of other people I can see the need in them being illegal.

  47. Admin, I just read through every post of this thing and I noticed one thing….no one has came in to agree with you…AT ALL!!!!! You would think there would be at least one post backing you up statistically speaking, but nope, none. Dwell on that for a while….

  48. ADMIN says:

    Maybe it’s because all of you guys are coming out from Pro-Drug websites. That’s what my google analytics is showing. Somehow I don’t think you came out from a religious website.

    So who are the type of people who frequent pro-drug (illegal substance) websites?? Could those be addicts? The people that I know who do not have any addiction problems would never go and visit a website that sells seeds or mushrooms or talks about LSD. Most of those “normal” people did not have such a great interest in drugs.

    Does this mean that there are addicts visiting my website?? No that would be impossible. You guys just like drugs a lot and are casual users. Yeah right….

  49. Mdubb says:

    12 steps is good whether you smoke, drink, dance, have too much sex, do drugs, are lazy, etc.
    Sobriety is a blessed thing.
    The alcohol, tobacco, pharmaceutical, and the pot industry obtains more than half of their profits from people who could be diagnosed with a substance abuse disease.
    The criminal justice system is not the most efficient method for dealing with addicts.
    Rehabilitation and treatment must be explored with a dependent individual.
    Marijuana, like any dependency, becomes harmful when the person can’t function or enjoy everyday life without said activity.
    The harm of prohibition greatly exceeds marijuana’s effects but efforts must always be made to dissuade individuals from substance dependence.

  50. PreparationH says:

    Woah, I read through everything on here and all I have to say is now you are accusing the people who just owned you on your own website addicts? Cmonnnn, that’s taking cheap shots and doing a lot of assuming sir. It’s a good thing people like you who want personal freedoms taken away like drug use are a dying breed.

    Even if they are drug addicts, they sure as hell proved their points and not a single one agreed with the same bullcrap propoganda you are spewing. I don’t even smoke pot, tried it, didn’t like it and it’s just not for me. But you have a personal vendetta against a plant? This is laughable and you are a strange person.

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